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There's no one way to lead. Yet we need to find a way. Our own way. And it can be hard to get right. As we find our way to lead it can be useful to listen to how others found theirs. Each fortnight, I’ll share a rich, unhurried conversation with someone who’s leaned into and learned from the challenges of leadership, change, and life while staying true to themselves. You'll get to experience me doing what I do best: asking the surface-piercing questions to help people see what they couldn't see before. Including you. Learn more about my courses and get more resources at https://www.digbyscott.com/ And follow me on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/digbyscott/

  1. 15. The Value of Mentorship, Embracing Nuance, and Finding Your Red Thread | Hazel Maclaurin

    MAR 24

    15. The Value of Mentorship, Embracing Nuance, and Finding Your Red Thread | Hazel Maclaurin

    Have you ever felt caught between competing identities in your professional life? Perhaps you've built a career on expertise and achievement in one domain, only to find yourself navigating an entirely new landscape that fundamentally changes how you're perceived. Today's conversation explores the importance of evolving your identity as your context changes, and how as we get older, we can get more nuanced in how we relate to the complexity that change brings.  Hazel Maclaurin shares her multifaceted journey as a musician, poet, digital marketing leader, and strategic HR content expert. She discusses the profound impact of mentorship on her career, the importance of storytelling in evoking change, and the necessity of nuance in today's world.  Whether you're wrestling with complexity in your organisation or seeking to honor all dimensions of your life, this conversation offers both wisdom and a refreshingly honest take on what it means to lead with authenticity. We discuss: The growing importance of ‘adaptive capacity’The power of brilliant mentorsThe difference between running away from something vs. moving toward something and how that difference transforms our relationship with work and leadership.the value that her ‘squiggly career’ has brought her the importance of embracing nuance in decision-making. the power of storytelling and language in fostering understanding and connectionthe societal expectations placed on women, the impact of motherhood on professional identity, the significance of self-compassion in personal evolution Hazel Maclaurin is a strategic HR content expert with over a decade of high-level corporate experience, including roles as global content manager for enterprise at Korn Ferry and global head of content at the Project Management Institute. Her "squiggly career" path—spanning titles including (but not only) musician, poet, digital marketing specialist, and HR strategist—has given her ‘range’ - unique insights and understanding into the human condition and the power of connection through language. You can find Hazel at: Website: https://www.hazelmaclaurin.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hazel-maclaurin-b985a625/ Blog: https://thiswomenswork.com/ Substack: https://thiswomenswork.substack.com Check out my services and offerings https://www.digbyscott.com/ Subscribe to my newsletter https://www.digbyscott.com/#subscribe Follow me on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/digbyscott/

    59 min
  2. 14. Natural Systems, Nervous Systems, and Navigating Change | Adam Cooper

    MAR 10

    14. Natural Systems, Nervous Systems, and Navigating Change | Adam Cooper

    Do you know that feeling when you're in a meeting or delivering a speech and you're caught up in thinking about what you want to say next? Then you completely miss the moment when something happens? And you're scrambling to catch up? This episode hones in on how we can stay more present to what's going on and then respond in the moment to what's happening so we can engage people more effectively and better navigate messy, complex situations. You’ll learn: How diving into the unknown fosters creativity and connectionWhy pre-meeting interactions shape the outcomes of gatheringsHow language influences our identity and decision-makingWhy navigating the unknown requires collective effort and presenceFour forms of listening that you need to masterHow nature serves as a powerful teacher for leadership.How systemic change begins with individual awareness and action.Why breath and presence are essential tools for leaders.Why savouring the world leads to deeper understanding and connection. Adam Cooper is one of those people who sees the world just a little bit differently. Adam grew up in Zimbabwe during a time of profound change, watching a society transform before he moved to New Zealand when he was 18. And that experience of seeing how quickly things can shift has shaped his unique lens on leadership and change. Adam's known for helping leaders and organisations see possibilities they didn't know existed. And he brings a fascinating blend of strategic thinking and embodied wisdom to his work. He's got this uncanny ability to spot patterns and shifts in society long before they become obvious to everyone else.  Adam designs his own path and is a role model for how you can too.  You can find Adam at: Website: https://www.creativeleadership.co.nz/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adcoops/ Check out my services and offerings https://www.digbyscott.com/ Subscribe to my newsletter https://www.digbyscott.com/thoughts#subscribe Follow me on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/digbyscott/

    1 hr
  3. 13. Breaking Out of Boxes, Constructive Challenge, and the Gift of Heritage | CO2 Rob Pa'o

    FEB 24

    13. Breaking Out of Boxes, Constructive Challenge, and the Gift of Heritage | CO2 Rob Pa'o

    How willing are you to let your ideas be destroyed?  That's a scary concept for many people because we can equate good ideas with being worthy.  But what if your worth comes from being a learner and not perfect? In this messy and complex world where the old structures and systems of society and work are found wanting, we need to evolve and adopt new ideas fast.  If you want to level up how you lead change, innovation, and learning, this episode will teach you:  How to create an environment of constructive challenge that enables fresh perspectives and stronger relationshipsWhy Rob believes collaboration trumps competition when problem-solving every timeThe importance of understanding the purpose behind traditionsWhy critical thinking should focus on accuracy rather than being rightThe way information is shared impacts its receptionThe discipline of patience when planting seeds of wisdom CO2 Rob Pa’o exemplifies an approach to life and leadership that is about blending curiosity, humility, and integrity into a potent package with plenty of practical wisdom for all of us. Rob’s heritage is Samoan. He’s a first-generation immigrant to New Zealand and was brought up in the predominantly white city of Christchurch.  Growing up in this environment, as someone who didn’t necessarily look like most other people there, strongly shaped how Rob made sense of who he is. When Rob and I first met a few years ago, he struck me as someone with a strong sense of who he is, yet with a deep curiosity to keep learning and growing. Rob makes you feel seen, heard, and invited to be bigger. It’s a powerful experience! You can find Rob on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/co2-robert-pa-o-417b70223/ Check out my services and offerings https://www.digbyscott.com/ Subscribe to my newsletter https://www.digbyscott.com/thoughts#subscribe  Follow me on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/digbyscott/

    55 min
  4. 12. Systems Thinking, The Power of Imagination, and Generational Wisdom | Dr. Richard Hodge

    FEB 10

    12. Systems Thinking, The Power of Imagination, and Generational Wisdom | Dr. Richard Hodge

    Are you trying to make lasting change happen, but you feel like you’re banging your head against a wall of short-term dramas and siloed thinking? This episode will help you to rise above the fray and hone in on how to be valuable, stay relevant, and play the longer game.  Dr. Richard Hodge is one of Australasia’s preeminent thought-leaders in systems thinking. He’s been in the workforce since 1970, with wide experience in science, engineering, public sector policy and the corporate world. Richard was one of the founding fathers of a major strategy business in Canberra, growing it to 80 staff and >$20M in revenue in 6 years. In 2007, he moved from advising GMs to being one in a global engineering business until he was sacked in 2010, one week after completing his PhD (part time). Since then, Richard has established his own practice helping leaders engage - not manage – complexity with the help of systems sciences. Together, Richard and I dig deep into:  Why understanding value is crucial for effective leadership and decision-makingHow relevance is determined by how well we align our actions with our valuesHow the long tail of consequences highlights the impact of our actions over timeWhy community engagement is essential for sustainable changeThe importance of efficiency not overshadowing ethics in organisational practicesHow generational wisdom plays a crucial role in systems thinkingWhy imagination is essential for envisioning changeHow making small, incremental steps can lead to significant transformationHow defining 'enough' is vital for personal equilibrium.Why connection and relationships are at the heart of effective leadership. If you're looking for ways to have a more lasting and sustainable impact in your work and life, this episode will give you lasting pearls of wisdom. Time Stamps: (00:00) - Imagining Better Leadership Through Systems Thinking (03:05) - The Dragonfly: A Metaphor for Leadership (08:09) - Understanding Value, Relevance, and Long-Term Impact (14:21) - The Role of Community in Effective Leadership (21:38) - The Five E's of Leadership: Beyond Efficiency (24:51) - Personal Stories Shaping Systems Thinking (30:41) - Challenges in Implementing Systems Thinking in Organisations (33:09) - Systems Thinking: The Spirit of Adventure (35:37) - Imagination and Possibility Thinking in Leadership (38:57) - The Long Game: Transformational Change in Organisations (44:26) - Personal Growth: Applying Systems Thinking to Individual Development (58:58) - Defining Enough: Values and Life Choices You can find Richard at: Website: https://www.drrichardhodge.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drrichardhodge/ Article: Play the Long Game https://www.digbyscott.com/thoughts/play-the-long-game Check out my services and offerings https://www.digbyscott.com/ Subscribe to my newsletter https://www.digbyscott.com/thoughts#subscribe Follow me on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/digbyscott/

    1h 1m
  5. 11. The Power of Purpose, Rethinking HR, and Making Work Better for Everyone | Gillian Brookes

    JAN 27

    11. The Power of Purpose, Rethinking HR, and Making Work Better for Everyone | Gillian Brookes

    Do you feel like work is taking over your life, leaving little room for fulfillment? Are you struggling to make your work align with your values or wondering how to create more balance and purpose in your career? In this episode, we explore how to bring more meaning into your work by aligning it with your values and learning how to lead with purpose. You'll hear how restructuring your approach to work can help you avoid burnout, create healthier boundaries, and make a lasting impact without sacrificing your well-being. Gillian Brookes is an HR professional, consultant, and author of Flexperts, with a passion for creating workplaces that serve people, not just the bottom line. In this episode, we dive into: How to redesign flexible work to create balance and well-being.Why the current economic structure is leaving many people behind—and how we can change that.The importance of boundaries and how to set them as a leader and working parent.How to sustain your energy while maintaining conviction in your values.What it means to create a purposeful and integrated life where work and personal values coexist. You can find Gillian at: Website: https://www.gillianbrookes.co.nz/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gillian-brookes-88928aa2/ Check out my services and offerings https://www.digbyscott.com/ Subscribe to my newsletter https://www.digbyscott.com/thoughts#subscribe Follow me on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/digbyscott/

    1h 1m
  6. 10. Embracing a Squiggly Career, Trusting Your Gut, and Leading with Vulnerability | Jodi Willocks

    JAN 13

    10. Embracing a Squiggly Career, Trusting Your Gut, and Leading with Vulnerability | Jodi Willocks

    Have you ever felt uncertain about your career path or questioned whether your empathetic leadership style is a strength or a weakness?  Or maybe you’ve wondered if it’s okay to embrace a non-linear, “squiggly” career while still finding success and fulfillment. In this episode, we dive deep into the power of following your gut, embracing a career that doesn’t follow the traditional path, and leading with vulnerability and empathy.  If you’ve ever worried about being ‘too nice’ as a leader, or if you’re facing burnout and wondering how to recharge, this conversation will help you uncover how to honour your values while carving your own path. Jodi Willocks has a background in marketing and advertising. With 21 jobs in 26 years, she has a hugely diverse range of experiences that give her a unique perspective on leadership. She’s also a co-founder of the Women of Pōneke movement, and is an exquisite writer on leadership and career topics. In our conversation, we explore: Why empathy is a strength, not a weakness, in leadershipThe importance of trusting your instincts and following a non-linear career pathHow embracing vulnerability can unlock more authentic and effective leadershipWhat Jodi learned from leading through COVID and how it transformed her approach Timestamps: (00:00) - Introducing Jodi Willocks (04:45) - The Foundation of Authentic Leadership (10:05) - The Impact of COVID on Leadership (17:54) - Navigating Career Breaks and Burnout (28:58) - Discovering Creativity Through Blogging (34:43) - The Importance of Recovery and Recharge (42:58) - The Sanctuary, Sandpit, and Stage Framework (50:13) - Ingredients for Successful Leadership You can find Jodi at: Website: https://www.careerjourneying.nz/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodi-willocks-6b035446/ Women of Pōneke: https://www.womenofponeke.org.nz/ Check out my services and offerings https://www.digbyscott.com/ Subscribe to my newsletter (https://www.digbyscott.com/thoughts#subscribe) Follow me on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/digbyscott/

    1h 4m
  7. 9. End of Year Reflections: Embracing Discomfort, From Hero to Host Leadership, Creating Space for Reflection, and the Let Go | Digby Scott

    12/30/2024

    9. End of Year Reflections: Embracing Discomfort, From Hero to Host Leadership, Creating Space for Reflection, and the Let Go | Digby Scott

    In this final episode of Dig Deeper for 2024, I’m reflecting on the key themes I’ve explored in the podcast and my blogs throughout the year. I'll cover four themes: the importance of discomfort for growththe shift from a hero to a host mindset in leadershipthe necessity of creating space for reflection the power of letting go of control.  Each theme has insights from previous podcast guests and excerpts from my writing, and some questions for you to take away and reflect on. Links: Fire, by Judy Brown: https://www.judysorumbrown.com/blog/breathing-space The Let Go: https://www.digbyscott.com/thoughts/the-let-go Check out my services and offerings https://www.digbyscott.com/ Subscribe to my newsletter https://www.digbyscott.com/thoughts#subscribe Follow me on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/digbyscott/

    20 min
  8. 8. How to Challenge and Change the Rules that Limit Us, Question Our Perspectives, and Think Outside the Box | Suzanne Rosa

    12/16/2024

    8. How to Challenge and Change the Rules that Limit Us, Question Our Perspectives, and Think Outside the Box | Suzanne Rosa

    Do you ever feel hamstrung by the rules you’re bound by? The have-to’s and should’s and the ‘don’t-do-that’s’ that govern your work practices and broader life? Do you ever wonder what things would be like if you could change the rules of the game? Rules are invented. They're made up. Which means they can be uninvented, or reinvented. Today’s conversation with behaviouralist and facilitator Suzanne Rosa explores the importance of identifying, challenging, and changing the rules to serve the purpose we’re here for. After listening, you’ll have a fresh way of thinking about how you can unlock new ways of working and living to create more of what matters. Suzanne was born in England and now lives in Sydney. She had a really tough upbringing: born deaf, she had multiple operations to restore her hearing. Then she lived in a truck travelling around Europe before becoming a foster child and then a homeless teenager. All of this led her to dig deeply into life's range of emotions and explore how we can utilise all that living has to offer. She's the author of two books, A Flourishing Mind, and Sleeping Giants. She can be summed up in three words: energy, curiosity, and ferocity. In this conversation, we explore: How our perception and lenses shape the meaning we make of the worldThere is no one truth, and why it's important to question our own perspectiveHow societal conditioning often limits our ability to pioneer and think outside the boxHow listening to our own signals and questioning the rules that hold us back can create conditions for a pioneering spiritThe importance of questioning societal norms and rulesHow to take time to regather and ground yourself before embarking on new chapters of personal growth. You can find Suzanne at: Website: https://suzannerosa.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/suzannewaldron/?originalSubdomain=au Check out my services and offerings https://www.digbyscott.com/ Subscribe to my newsletter (https://www.digbyscott.com/thoughts#subscribe) Join the Career Break community https://www.digbyscott.com/careerbreak Follow me on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/digbyscott/

    1h 1m
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There's no one way to lead. Yet we need to find a way. Our own way. And it can be hard to get right. As we find our way to lead it can be useful to listen to how others found theirs. Each fortnight, I’ll share a rich, unhurried conversation with someone who’s leaned into and learned from the challenges of leadership, change, and life while staying true to themselves. You'll get to experience me doing what I do best: asking the surface-piercing questions to help people see what they couldn't see before. Including you. Learn more about my courses and get more resources at https://www.digbyscott.com/ And follow me on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/digbyscott/

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  • Creator
    Digby Scott
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2025
  • Episodes
    16
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    Explicit
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